{"id":9505,"date":"2014-09-16T20:24:26","date_gmt":"2014-09-17T03:24:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/?p=9505"},"modified":"2014-09-19T10:19:06","modified_gmt":"2014-09-19T17:19:06","slug":"the-numbers-game-taking-a-closer-look-at-professor-rating-sites","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/2014\/09\/16\/the-numbers-game-taking-a-closer-look-at-professor-rating-sites\/","title":{"rendered":"The numbers game: taking a closer look at professor-rating sites"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The first time I came across a website that rates teachers, I was in middle school. Back then, it was a way to laugh at bad reviews of my least favourite teachers and smile at the glowing reviews for my faves.<\/p>\n<p>Now that I\u2019m a (somewhat) mature college student, I wondered if I could turn to popular prof-rating website Rate my Professors for more useful, decision-making\/teacher-picking information.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9507\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9507\" style=\"width: 420px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nicole.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9507 \" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nicole.jpg\" width=\"420\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nicole.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nicole-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nicole-180x119.jpg 180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9507\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">There are lots of Camosun profs rated online (see our September 17, 2014 issue to see many more) (photos by Jill Westby\/<em>Nexus<\/em>).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I wanted to know if I could really enhance my college experience by consulting a website before I chose my instructors, or at least have a legit reason to read through pages and pages of hilarious reviews. I figured, what better way to find out than to ask students, and teachers, what they think of the site.<\/p>\n<p><b>Student feedback\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>With a name like Rate My Professors, it\u2019s obvious the website is geared towards students. So hopefully students are using it.<\/p>\n<p>For some Camosun students, like first-year Business Administration student Dan Ramage, Rate My Professors is an essential resource.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve picked seven different instructors from Rate My Professors,\u201d says Ramage, \u201cand I think it\u2019s been an accurate representation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And for others, it\u2019s more of a decision-making aid. Melanie Winter has used the website to scout out her instructors both at MacEwan University in Alberta and here at Camosun College during her first year of her Business Administration HR degree.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf I go back and read the reviews of teachers I had, I find that they\u2019re pretty accurate,\u201d says Winter, \u201cbut when I look at reviews to find teachers I get a different outcome than what I thought.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So Rate My Profs, as it\u2019s called, may not be a one-stop shop for class picking, but what is it good for?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s effective if you want to know if a person is a tough marker, or not easy to meet up with, or unhelpful, and that\u2019s important,\u201d says Winter. \u201cLike if a person says, \u2018That teacher grades completely hard and I\u2019m usually an A+ student,\u2019 I know it\u2019s tough to do good in that class.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But, of course, an online rating system like Rate My Professors has its negatives. \u201cThere are trolls who will write reviews just for the sake of doing negative reviews,\u201d complains Ramage.<\/p>\n<p>There is something about an anonymous online review service that can bring out the worst in people. Winter says that negativity can definitely be a downside on the website.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI find people have the tendency to write more negative reviews than positive reviews,\u201d says Winter. \u201cThat\u2019s where it\u2019s a downfall.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But the apples aren\u2019t all bruised on Rate My Professors, says Winter.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt draws two types of people,\u201d she says. \u201cIt draws the completely negative people who want to slam their teacher cause they\u2019re mad, and it draws those who are top-notch students in the class who are into meeting with their teachers all the time and stuff like that, and want to write a good review.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It may be hard to tell if someone who posts on Rate My Profs has a legitimate claim to shame or if they are just \u201csomebody just didn\u2019t do their work or has beef with the teacher for some reason,\u201d says Winter.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Francis.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-9508 alignleft\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Francis.jpg\" width=\"420\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Francis.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Francis-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Francis-180x119.jpg 180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But not everyone has trouble weeding out the legit from the less legit. \u201cI can generally see through the trolls,\u201d says Ramage. \u201cIt\u2019s pretty easy if you ask me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Although Winter says she uses the site a lot to read comments and reviews on instructors, she usually refrains from posting herself unless it\u2019s absolutely necessary.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI just made my first review last semester,\u201d says Winter. \u201cIt was a class I was nervous going in to and I wrote a review because I knew people out there like me, who are average students, would want to know what I wanted to know.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The majority of the reviews on Rate My Prof stay on one end of the scale or the other. In the case of Ramage, he would only post \u201cif I had a really bad experience, or if I had a really good experience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Winter says she is willing to go out of her way to recognize a good prof.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf I went to a class and understood everything,\u201d she says, \u201cI would want to recognize the teacher for that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Teacher feature<\/b><\/p>\n<p>There are two sides to every story, and what good is Rate My Professors without any professors?<\/p>\n<p>Although you might think that your profs are stuck in the Stone Age, it\u2019s likely they know about Rate My Profs as well.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI knew it existed, but it had been a long time since I looked at it,\u201d says Camosun Criminal Law professor Brian Young. \u201cIt was great, though. I got to look at a bunch of other profs; it\u2019s hilarious.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And if teachers are looking at it as well, it may have other uses than just helping you choose the least evil professor for next semester; it might help the teacher know what they need to change.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I read the reviews, I kind of go, \u2018Well, that\u2019s good,\u2019 because that [feedback] is what I want,\u201d says Young. \u201cI think it\u2019s great for me to be able to read it, and it\u2019s completely anonymous.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The anonymity of the site might make it an even more valuable resource for students.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI used to use those hand out end-of-term review things and even that\u2019s kind of difficult,\u201d says Young, \u201cbecause you are there in the class, they have this kind of subconscious awareness of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nigel.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-9509 alignleft\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nigel.jpg\" width=\"420\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nigel.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nigel-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/nigel-180x119.jpg 180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As opposed to in-class reviews, Rate My Profs is not a one-time, one-place thing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe thing that\u2019s kind of cool about Rate My Profs is that the students that want to do it can just go on there and do it,\u201d explains Young. \u201cThey can tell the truth and give the feedback without any consequence, and sometimes that\u2019s the best review.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Young says that the site might even be able to draw more and better students.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019ve got to put a bit of effort into it,\u201d he says, \u201cso you\u2019re doing it to help your fellow students.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Young goes as far as to say that even the haters have useful things to say.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you\u2019ve got nothing but negative reviews, there\u2019s a message to you that you need to tinker with something, because something\u2019s not working,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>And what would Young say to the Negative Nellys? \u201cYou\u2019d like to grab them and slap them around a bit and say, \u2018Seriously?\u2019 but what are you going to say? If some anonymous person says, \u2018You suck,\u2019 are you going to go, \u2018No, I don\u2019t\u2019?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>More seriously, Young says he does appreciate the reviews. He says his real response to negative comments would be, \u201c\u2018Thank you for the feedback.\u2019 I think it\u2019s great, I like what I do, and I think having the opportunity to get that feedback is great.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s good to know that at least some teachers might be taking the comments on Rate My Professors to heart. It might even mean that Rate My Professors is useful for giving accurate and honest feedback for a professor to work with.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I read those reviews I think, \u2018Maybe I am doing okay at this,\u2019\u201d says Young. \u201cI\u2019m doing what I would like to see a prof do, and I think it\u2019s working for the students, so, in that way, I wish I had checked it sooner.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>The critics<\/b><b>\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Aside from knowing whether or not people are using and enjoying Rate My Professors, it\u2019s important to examine whether there are any problems with the concept of the site itself.<\/p>\n<p>For this, we turned to Camosun Sociology professor Peter Ove.<\/p>\n<p>Ove admitted to checking out the site himself. \u201cI think most profs have looked themselves up on it at some point,\u201d he says. \u201cWhether or not they think it\u2019s useful, it\u2019s kind of hard not to.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>From his experiences with the site, Ove has definitely encountered some problems. He agrees with student Melanie Winter that on Rate My Profs \u201cyou get two kinds of students; the ones who love the profs and the ones who hate them,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Ove says this makes for a less-than-desirable sample population. \u201cYou want a good sample, a proportional sample. You can\u2019t have a random sample.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another thing that he says makes the website an ineffective survey tool is the lack of volume. \u201cGood surveys have a large sample,\u201d says Ove. \u201cFor example, right now I think I have two ratings, and I\u2019ve had about 160 students a term for six terms now. So there\u2019s nowhere near the number of students for it to actually be feasible.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ove does agree with Young that the end-of-term class surveys also aren\u2019t the best way to get constructive criticism.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou can have the same problem with in-class evaluations, though,\u201d he says. \u201cFor an in-class evaluation you\u2019re lucky to get 50 percent of students.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>One of the biggest problems with Rate My Profs is the criteria they use to rate instructors on the site, say Ove.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe one real beef I have with rate my prof is the criteria they use: helpfulness, and clarity, and easiness,\u201d he says. \u201cThat says a lot about what they think about teaching, and what they think the purpose of teaching is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/candace.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-9510 alignleft\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/candace.jpg\" width=\"420\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/candace.jpg 700w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/candace-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nexusnewspaper.com\/newsite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/candace-180x119.jpg 180w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For Ove, it\u2019s an issue because it jumps to conclusions about what the whole point of college is. \u201cIt\u2019s assuming that students are going to school simply to get it done, and not actually to expand your mind, learn something interesting, improve yourself, or help society,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Like any good critic, Ove has suggestions for improvement.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe one category that\u2019s really missing is something like importance or value, maybe the professor wasn\u2019t very clear or helpful, but you learned a ton,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Ove does admit that there are times where the site might be helpful to students.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhere a student looks and every single review is horrible, they might avoid that course,\u201d he says. \u201cBut barring those extreme examples, when the class fits in your schedule is probably more important than minor differences in Rate My Professors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><b>Final thoughts\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p>One thing everyone, students and instructors alike, agrees on is that Rate My Professor is a place you can go to share and read other people\u2019s opinions.<\/p>\n<p>You might be with Ove, who says \u201cit\u2019s not going to accurately represent the teacher, but I don\u2019t know if any evaluation is going to sum up everything about the teacher. What they do show is someone\u2019s opinion, which is valuable, not because it\u2019s all the truth. But because it\u2019s someone\u2019s opinion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Or you may side with Young, who says \u201cthere should be some tool where people can leave some opinion on whether this is a good course to take or not, and it\u2019s not highly scientific, but sometimes we don\u2019t need that; we just need what you think.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Whether you like using Rate My Professors or not, as Ove says, \u201cIt\u2019s one source of information which people can use, or not use, along with lots of other sources of information.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So keep reading those ratings. Just remember to watch out for trolls.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The first time I came across a website that rates teachers, I was in middle school. Back then, it was a way to laugh at bad reviews of my least favourite teachers and smile at the glowing reviews for my faves. 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